Who wants to co-found a professional org for trans people in tech?
This is not a joke by the way, I want to do this.
@kelbesque i’m interested but i doubt i have the capacity to be a founder
@nova that's legitimate! I'd love it if you could boost to add visibility, if you feel comfortable with that!
@kelbesque I'm not sure I'd have the time to be a cofounder but wish to subscribe to your mailing list as it were
@iliana I'll consider this thread the mailing list subscription of record, so to speak. 💖
@adasauce @loki @iliana honestly the way it happened for me was to have a safety net ready in re: another job, because I was already on the verge of quitting anyway, and I interviewed out to sniff out employers who wouldn't want me if I was trans/NB. So, extremely relatable. Will keep people posted.
I'm unfortunately locked in via "golden handcuffs" in this venture as well as potentially a next. While I know that some execs are fine, I'm sure some would go out of their way to be ruinous (boys club, cigars, strippers, et al.).
I know it's my own hill to climb and the obstacle is truly myself and being honest, but finding alternatives that don't leave my family on the street leaves me weary. hashtag capitalism
@kelbesque oh shit me
@kelbesque I'm listening.
@DissidentKitty what can I tell you?
@kelbesque What do you need right now for the organization?
@kelbesque We'd love to, but we're between jobs at the moment, and thus a poor representative for that.
Let us know when you have it going, we'd love to make a contribution.
100% in support of this. By the way, have you heard of TransTech Social? I submitted an application to join but haven't received a response yet. Apparently before she was on Pose, Angelica Ross was a self taught webdev, so she started something pretty similar a couple of years back in Chicago.
@kelbesque i'm interested as well. happy to help however i can!
What kind of org?
Or, more clearly, what do you want there org to do, both in the high level view and in the sorta regular interaction?
@savanni I haven't forgotten about this! I'm just trying to carve my initial frustration--being the only out trans person at my previous and current jobs, having People orgs that are open to diversity/inclusion recruitment initiatives but not being mature/effective enough to know where to find more trans candidates, and me honestly having the same problem--into a draft of a mission. (Conversely, if I wanted to look for jobs at trans-friendly companies, I wouldn't know where to start, tbh.)
@kelbesque Ah, okay.
For some of this, there is actually an LGBTQ in Tech slack which helps out with communication (especially getting the dirt on companies).
When I think of a professional organization, I think of something that does this in a more formal way, but which also starts to establish formal codes of conduct and development goals.
@savanni I'm familiar with the Slack. From what I've heard, it's not a well-moderated space, which makes it a poor fit for a lot of people, to your point about codes of conduct, etc.
I would also love to provide formal avenues for fostering growth and development. But my immediate focus is "how do we find and form places that are safe for us to exist as professionals?"
My current company is well-intentioned, but I'm in week 2 and have already been asked to lead the company's LGBTQ ERG. 😬
@savanni To be clear, I wouldn't mind doing something like that, it's just that asking your newest, highest profile queer to lead the queer group at your company just because they're enthusiastic about knowing their fellow queers at the company feels iffy to me.
And being the only trans person leading a group of people who don't share your needs... well, the thought feels potentially isolating to me.
@kelbesque This is a fair critique of the slack. Though it is my community, I have withdrawn from almost all of the public channels because they all either turn toxic in the traditional sense, or toxic in the sense of being unable to resolve any conflicts.
I noped out of the trans spaces very early on and left the genderqueer space, even, when a clearly cis gay moderator quashed a religious conflict instead of leading a resolution.
@kelbesque Anyway, this professional organization idea is actually a very good one. And while I don't have the necessary skills for facilitating such a thing, I could learn with a few other people.
To what end? What are your goals with said org?
@imani A great question! I'm have this initial frustration--being the only out trans person at my previous and current jobs, having People orgs that are open to diversity/inclusion recruitment initiatives but not being mature/effective enough to know where to find more trans candidates, and me honestly having the same problem--into a mission that's also meaningful for other trans folks and their needs and goals.
@crookedtricking Thank you for the suggestion! I love that TransTech Social exists, but I and a number of other people I know applied and never heard back, and I know other folks who joined but felt deterred from participating by not being in Chicago.
@kelbesque weird, I wonder what’s going on that applications haven’t been approved
@crookedtricking Honestly, I imagine they're pretty busy. They do a lot, it doesn't seem unreasonable for applications for free memberships to fall through the cracks. 🙂
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